[WSF-Discuss] Some criticisms of the Belem Ecosocialist Declaration

David Stodolsky dss at secureid.net
Sun Mar 29 11:11:16 UCT 2009


On 29 Mar 2009, at 9:00 AM, CACIM wrote:

> My main remark is that an ecosocialist declaration should absolutely  
> link the climate crisis to the worst and deepest business crisis  
> since 1929. This is a key condition if we want to get some influence  
> among the workers and the poor in general.

Yes, but the relationship is that 'green taxes', carbon trading, etc.  
result in transfers of wealth to the rich. The economic crisis hit  
because workers simply couldn't acquire more debt.



> We should explain that the combination of both crisis opens a  
> totally new situation.
What is the difference between the 'global warming crisis' and the  
'oil crisis' recently and in the 1970's that capital used to justify  
massive transfers of wealth?



> Rich economies have to reduce their energy consumption by 50% or  
> more. Such a reduction can not be achieved only by better energy  
> efficiency: a certain “de-growth” of material production and  
> consumption will be necessary.

A sure loss of support from workers and the poor.



The first step in any political action is seeing thru the propaganda  
of the ruling class:


http://mises.org/story/3283

there is in fact no consensus of scientists behind global-warming:
Professor Dennis Bray of Germany and Hans von Storch polled climate  
scientists to rate the statement, "To what extent do you agree or  
disagree that climate change is mostly the result of anthropogenic  
causes?" … They received responses from 530 climate scientists in 27  
countries, of whom 44 percent were either neutral or disagreed with  
the statement…



Suppression, etc. are summarized here:

http://www.marxist.com/global-warming-socialist-perspective-part-one.htm



Actual measurements of the Planet's energy balance hardly make an  
appearance in the media:

<http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060824/news_lz1c24moon.html>

Reflected earthshine reveals changing global climate and clues to  
seeking other Earths

"From the middle 1980s to about 2000, they found that there was indeed  
a drop in the Earth's reflectance – enough to have increased the  
average amount of solar energy absorbed by 3.5 watts per square meter,  
a startling 1.7 percent increase.
By comparison, human emissions of greenhouse gases have added only 2.5  
watts per square meter to the amount of energy retained by the Earth,  
Goode says.

Then, in 2000, the trend reversed. Earthshine increased, and the  
amount of sunlight reaching the surface began declining – an  
observation subsequently confirmed by data from orbiting satellites."



dss

David Stodolsky
david.stodolsky at socialinformatics.org  Skype: davidstodolsky






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