[WSF-Discuss] Fwd: [DEBATE] : SASF banned

Jai Sen jai.sen at cacim.net
Wed Oct 15 05:11:18 UCT 2008


Further information on the banning of the Southern Africa Social Forum.
Please discuss and consider taking support actions

	JS, for CACIM

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Dennis Brutus <dennisbrutus2002 at yahoo.com>
> Date:  October 15 2008 1:47:40 AM GMT+05:30
> To: "debate: SA discussion list" <debate at debate.kabissa.org>
> Subject: Re: [DEBATE] : SASF banned
> Reply-To: "debate: SA discussion list " <debate at debate.kabissa.org>
>
> if the forum has been banned there should be protest   0  GLOBALLY   
> dennis brutus, caracas venezuela´0 south africa
>
> --- On Mon, 10/13/08, Dominic Tweedie <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> From: Dominic Tweedie <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [DEBATE] : SASF banned
> To: "debate: SA discussion list" <debate at debate.kabissa.org>
> Date: Monday, October 13, 2008, 2:56 PM
>
> I phoned Muzi. He works for OSISA. He said that the announcement of
> the ban was made through public media, in particualr radio, in
> Swaziland. Can anyone confirm that?
>
> I asked him to get an authoritative statement out as soon as possible.
>
> I asked if the organisers would continue to encourage the delegates to
> turn up. His answer was that OSISA would encourage them still to come.
>
> I'm still not comfortable with this story.
>
> But if it is true it is a big story. Have Social Forums been banned
> before? Have they been banned by a chairman of and organ on democracy
> (who happens to be an absolute monarch)?
>
> Any further information will be appreciated.
>
> VC
>
>
> 2008/10/13 Dominic Tweedie <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com>:
>> O.k.,
>>
>> Here is another indication of this story. It's from Isabella
>> Matambanadzo on the Zim Fight on e-mail forum:
>>
>> Over a broken phone line and SMS Interview with Muzi Masuku:  
>> Swaziland
>> Programme Manager, Open Society Initiative for Southern Africa
>>
>> "they first sent a fax to the organisers and said that this event is
>> banned.... what i gather is that the government this morning refused
>> civil society to use mavuso trading centre in manzini which had been
>> booked for this activity.
>>
>> bosco skills centre, an alternative venue at the Catholic Church had
>> been prepared to be used and organisers were getting ready to rent
>> tents.
>>
>> this evening the government announced through the state controlled
>> media that the entire  event is banned
>>
>> "freedom of association and assembly exists in the swaziland
>> constitution, in terms of section 25. in fact we do not even need to
>> get permission to gather as citizens. we had as organisers and Swazis
>> made the necessary correspondence out of courtesy.
>>
>> now we are preparing our papers to go to court to seek legal recourse
>> from the state's intended interference with this particular
> process.".
>>
>> Contact Tel for Muzi on 082 610 6703
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2008/10/13 Dominic Tweedie <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I can't seem to find anything to back this story up. Sorry about
> that. Take it back down to allegation level, please. If anybody has  
> any further
> and better particulars, please put them on here.
>>>
>>> Much obliged.
>>>
>>> VC
>>>
>>> 2008/10/13 Dominic Tweedie <dominic.tweedie at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> The Southern Africa Social Forum has been banned by the Swaziland
> government.
>>>>
>>>> More later.
>>>>
>>>> VC
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