[WSF-Discuss] Invitation to help CACIM plan events at Belem

Tue Nov 25 14:54:45 UCT 2008

Dear Jai,

Ill be in Belem as well, and interested to participate in the events...

Warm greetings

R

Quoting Thomas Ponniah <thomas.ponniah at gmail.com>:

> Dear Jai and all,
>
> Thanks for these superb proposals.
>
> I will be in Belem and would be willing to take part in your events.
> As Teivo mentions
> in his email, some of us in NIGD are organizing an event on the Future
> of the Forum
> and it would be great if we could have some dialogue between these   
> events.  The
> Forum need a discussion on its achievements, weaknesses and future projects.
>
> looking forward to seeing you all
>
> take care,
>
> Thomas
>
> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Teivo Teivainen <teivainen at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> dear jai and all,
>>
>> thanks again for all the wonderful work and apologis for late reply (been on
>> the road a bit too much, now in singapore, soon in melbourne and manila...
>> and yes, hope to make it to bharat asap... ah, any suggestions on
>> interesting people or movements to meet either in singapore, kuala lumpur,
>> melbourne or manila would be great).
>>
>> so, to your questions
>>
>> - yes, i will be in belem and willing to take part in your events. and this
>> particular seminar looks fascinating.
>>
>> - for speakers, it is important that it will not be simply the wsf elite
>> (including ourselves), though in cacim events on the process there have
>> often been a wider variety of speakers than in events organized by some
>> others...  for example, perhaps obviously, it would be good to include
>> indigenous movements, feminists, libertarian socialists and climate justice
>> activists, but the list should be much longer...
>>
>> - i can talk with people in nigd (www.nigd.org) to see how we could do
>> things together. one of the related things nigd is planning is something on
>> the impact of the forum. i think it is a good moment to have a serious
>> debate on what the concrete (general and particular) mechanisms through
>> which the wsf process has had (and could have) an impact on struggles and
>> transormations.
>>
>> - question; under what "objective" (thematic axis) cacim events have been
>> proposed for the belem program? i ask this also because i am sort of
>> facilitating one of the objectives, the one on democracy (though there has
>> been a problem with the web site so the facilitation has been a bit slow
>> thus far)....
>>
>> in case you know anyone in melbourne, there will be this event on the wsf
>> and global political agency on thursday:
>>
>> http://www.rmit.edu.au/browse;ID=chcxz8pqfyknz
>>
>>
>> hugs,
>>
>>
>> teivo
>>
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>> Department of Political Science
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>> Finland
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>> ________________________________
>> From: Jai Sen <jai.sen at cacim.net>
>> To: Post WSFDiscuss <WorldSocialForum-Discuss at openspaceforum.net>
>> Cc: Jai Sen <jai.sen at cacim.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:55:50 PM
>> Subject: [WSF-Discuss] Invitation to help CACIM plan events at the Belem
>> Forum, (3) : Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice
>> Movement, and Beyond
>>
>> Invitation to help CACIM plan events at the Belem Forum, (3) : Facing the
>> Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice Movement, and Beyond
>>
>> Wednesday, November 19, 2008
>>
>>
>> Dear friends on WSFDiscuss, greetings – once again !
>>
>>             Further to our similar postings yesterday and the day before, we
>> from CACIM are planning to also organise – again, hopefully together with
>> others – the following event at the Belem Forum :
>>
>>
>> Facing the Future :
>>
>> The World Social Forum, the Global Justice Movement, and Beyond.
>>
>>
>>
>> Once again, this posting is both to give you advance notice of this event –
>> and to invite you to join us there then ! – but also to invite you to help
>> us plan for it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Specifically, and just as yesterday and the day before, we are both
>> attaching and pasting on below a brief write-up that we have prepared for
>> the event, and we would be very happy if you would :
>>
>>
>>
>> 1.              Please let us know whether you are coming to Belem, and if
>> so, whether you would like to take part in this event. (Apologies to those
>> with whom we have already been in preliminary touch about our events at
>> Belem and from whom we have already heard in this regard.  But now that we
>> have finalised our four events, please do write in again and let us know !
>>  Thanks.)
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.              Comment on the draft outline for the event.  Please either
>> respond here, on this list, or send us your comments in TRACKED CHANGES on
>> the attached version.  Thanks !
>>
>>
>>
>> 3.              Make suggestions for key speakers for the event, with the
>> following details :
>>
>>
>> Name :
>> Name of organisation or institution or movement, if any :
>> Full contact details (email id, country and preferably city / town / village
>> location, and phone contacts) :
>> Languages spoken :
>> and also :
>> A 50-100 word blurb on each person so that we know a little WHY you think
>> the person is relevant to the event.
>>
>>
>> 4.              Suggest appropriate organisations who might like to
>> co-organise the events with us (again, FULL DETAILS, please, as above, with
>> reasons as to why these organisations).
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.              Suggest possible sources of funds for this event – and in
>> general, the set of four events we are proposing to organise at Belem.
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally : PLEASE DO REPLY ALL, so that my colleagues also remain in the
>> loop.  Thanks !
>>
>>
>>
>> One more point : Just so that there is no confusion, please do note that we
>> are proposing to organise four events in Belem, in all; as follows.  We have
>> already posted similar letter for the first two (as noted below) and are
>> going to be also posting similar letters for the fourth one tomorrow, with
>> each one inviting you to help us with them :
>>
>>
>>
>> v     The Politics, Potentials, and Meanings of the Belem Forum : The
>> Significance of the Forum for the Indigenous Peoples of the World (as per
>> the message posted yesterday (posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008)
>>
>>
>>
>> v     Critically engaging with the principles underlying the World Social
>> Forum  (Wednesday, November 19, 2008)
>>
>>
>>
>> v     Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice
>> Movement, and Beyond  (this message)
>>
>>
>>
>> v     A Global Labour Charter for Humanity : If Not Now, When ? (coming
>> tomorrow).
>>
>>
>>
>> We look forward very much to hearing back from you !  And also to the chance
>> of meeting you there in Belem, and to your taking part in one or more of
>> these events.
>>
>>
>>
>> With warm greetings
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> for CACIM
>>
>>             Jai Sen
>>
>> att
>> Facing the Future - The WSF, GJM, Beyond - Disc Note d1 js1411, 201108 for
>> comments TC.doc
>> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>> DISCUSSION DRAFT – COMMENTS INVITED !
>> Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice Movement, and
>> Beyond
>>
>> A Discussion Note towards a Workshop at the WSF at Belem, Brazil, in January
>> 2009
>>
>> CACIM, November 14 2008 – prepared by Jai Sen for CACIM, first draft
>>
>>
>> Among those who participate in it, and among some observers and
>> commentators, the World Social Forum is celebrated as an extremely
>> significant contribution to what some refer to as the 'global social justice
>> movement' and, indeed, to world politics. In turn, what is referred to as
>> the 'global social justice movement' – and that is portrayed by some to be
>> globalisation from below – is also seen as an important contribution to the
>> struggle against neoliberalism and to the achievement of global justice.
>>
>> Others however argue that both the WSF and the GJM are already dying; and/or
>> that they lack the anger, the vision, and the organisation to be able to
>> achieve what they say they are about.  Perhaps of equal relevance is the
>> reality that what is called the 'global social justice movement' is not the
>> only show in town; for there are other movements – other social and
>> political currents, and stirrings – beyond the WSF and the GJM that are
>> also, in their own ways and visions, but separately, struggling for global
>> justice, such as the global Islamic movement or the struggles of indigenous
>> peoples in different parts of the world.
>>
>> And beyond this, the global justice movement – and also the other movements
>> taking place – must also seen within a longer and larger history of
>> transformative struggle that has been taking place over the past half
>> century, and specifically since the mid 1960s, since when huge changes have
>> taken place in the world of movement.
>>
>> All of this is confronted by the major new emerging realities in the world –
>> the current collapse of the global financial system, which itself is
>> bringing into question even for its proponents the entire neoliberal
>> project, and beyond that the global climate and ecological crisis, which –
>> and triggered by the same causes - threatens to be a collapse far larger
>> than the financial system.
>>
>> The WSF, and the GJM, must face the winds of this history, this present, and
>> this future; these futures.
>>
>> Some, even much, of this ground is the content of a new book being currently
>> edited by Peter Waterman and Jai Sen, due out in early 2009. This book,
>> which will be the second volume in the Challenging Empires series, continues
>> in the tradition of the first volume, World Social Forum : Challenging
>> Empires :[1] As a critical anthology of essays on the theory and practice of
>> the World Social Forum and now also the global justice movement, including
>> discussing them at this juncture in history and looking ahead to the
>> future.  This time however, the collection decisively moves ahead and
>> locates the WSF and the 'GJM' with respect to much wider currents of
>> movement in the world today – of other worlds in the making.
>>
>> We, hopefully with others, therefore propose to take the opportunity of the
>> WSF at Belem, in January 2009, to organise a major Seminar in this area,
>> including by inviting to the session all the contributors to the original
>> book and the forthcoming book.
>>
>>
>> In part, the discussions that take place in Belem will also follow the
>> discussions that have taken place at related meetings organised by CACIM in
>> the recent past :
>>
>> A major Symposium organised in New Delhi, India, on August 29 & 30, 2008 on
>> the theme Struggles for Social Justice in India Today : How Relevant is the
>> World Social Forum ? (for the Theme Note, Symposium Programme, List of
>> Participants, and a Summary Note on what happened, see
>> http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=CACIMEvents); and –
>> A Seminar / Roundtable discussion at the European Social Forum on How
>> Relevant is the WSF to Struggles for Social Justice in the World Today ?,
>> co-organised with Fronesis, a Swedish journal (http://fronesis.nu/english/)
>> on September 19 2008 (for a report, see
>> http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=Malmo).
>>
>>
>> We are also inviting to the Belem session all those who were speakers or
>> resource people at these two events.
>>
>>
>> Comments welcome !
>>
>>
>> _____________
>> CACIM
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>> A second edition of this book has now come out in 2008, published by Black
>> Rose Books (http://www.blackrosebooks.net/wsf.htm).
>>
>> ______________________________
>>
>> Jai Sen
>> jai.sen at cacim.net
>> CACIM, A-3 Defence Colony, New Delhi 110 024, India
>> www.cacim.net
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