[WSF-Discuss] Invitation to help CACIM plan events at Belem
nicolas haeringer
nicolas.haeringer at gmail.com
Mon Dec 15 11:02:13 UCT 2008
Hello,
I suggest that we register an assembly during the alliance day on WSF
itself.
Indeed, the sessions described below won't be the only one were the
role, the shape and the future of the forum will be adressed.
Having an assembly on the last day could open the possibility for more
people to join and try to elaborate some concrete proposals - that
could eventually be presented to the IC on the next day.
Nicolas
Le 1 déc. 08 à 10:27, Madhuresh a écrit :
> December 1 2008
> Dear Friends,
> Greetings !
> We have received various suggestions and feedback on our request for
> helping to plan the events at CACIM. As of now we have proposed to
> organise these four events with other organisations on the dates
> mentioned below. Many of you have also responded positively to be at
> these meetings we are still collating all the information and will
> send regular updates. More details are available at http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=CACIMatBelem
>
> January 29 2009 : CACIM, India; El Taller International, Tunisia;
> NFFPFW - National Forum of Forest People and Forest Workers, India
> The Politics, Potentials, and Meanings of the Belem Forum : The
> Significance of the Forum for the Indigenous Peoples of the World
>
> January 29 2009 : CACIM
> Critically engaging with the principles underlying the World Social
> Forum
>
> January 30 2009 : AFM - Articulación Feminista Marco Sur; CACIM,
> Democracy and Social Movement Institute, Sungkonhoe University;
> ARENA - Asian Regional Exchange for New Alternatives (tentative)
> Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice
> Movement, and Beyond
>
> January 31 2009 : CACIM; Watermania
> A Global Labour Charter for Humanity : If Not Now, When ?
>
> With regard to linking the event registered by NIGD event and
> CACIM’s event ‘Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the
> Global Justice Movement, and Beyond’ we had proposed earlier to
> Teivo and Thomas that we could schedule them on the same day
> (probably January 30th) in the same room one after another so that
> way we could avoid time clash as well as have a full discussion on
> similar related themes.
>
> As we understand the focus of both the meetings is different it will
> be good to start the discussion with an assessment of the impact of
> the Forum and then go on to discuss the Forum and its relationship
> with the larger GJSM. We have elaborated these issues in the
> discussion note for the meeting @ http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=CACIMatBelem3
> . We do hope that Teivo will be able to manage the timings for these
> two events. Also we feel it will be useful to have a small note
> about the seminar so that we could circulate it well in advance and
> do a joint publicity.
>
> Do let us know what you think of it.
>
> Madhuresh
>
>
> Ruby van der Wekken wrote:
>>
>> Dear all, hi!
>>
>> Good to hear about this exchange of ideas on FoF and FtF events!
>>
>> We have registered two NIGD sessions following each other under the
>> title The Future of the Forum : The WSF process and the Global
>> Justice Movements_1 and idem_2.
>>
>> The first event session on the impact of the forum has a more
>> completed registration worked out by Thomas, Teivo and other NIGD-
>> ers. The second session has not yet really been taking forward,
>> idea was for it to focus more on the movements, possibly a session
>> breaking out in working groups etc.
>>
>> Well - perhaps we continue our discussions and see how we can link
>> up!
>>
>> Teivo, you as facilitator of the thematical area could be seeing
>> how we can link up in terms of any merging of any sessions (will
>> you as fascilitator propose the merging of events)? or for sessions
>> to follow each other?
>>
>> I can also write to the NIGD group of our exchange.
>>
>> greetings from Holland, from here this week our family will already
>> head to Brasil, back to our Amazon town - I am not quite sure how
>> online we in practice can be, but I look forward to meeting you in
>> Belem!
>>
>> Ruby
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting "Teivo Teivainen" <teivainen at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>> dear all, i include ruby also here.
>>> this sounbds good, if these events are under the same thematic
>>> axis ‘Building real democratic political and economic structures
>>> and institutions (local, national and global ones), and especially
>>> since this is the axis (objective) i am supposed to be
>>> facilitating (there was some problem with the website in
>>> particular with this axis so i have not really advanced much...
>>> the other personm assigned for this is ali karamat, but seems he
>>> has not really done too much...). so we might have time to see
>>> how to link these events, though i am not totyally sure how the
>>> facilitatation is supposed to function.
>>> hugs from the philippines, will have all kinds of things this
>>> weekend herer with walden and his associates...
>>>
>>> best,
>>>
>>> teivo
>>> Tuesday, 25 November 2008
>>> Dear Teivo and Thomas,
>>> Greetings from Delhi !
>>> Thanks for your feedback on the meeting proposals and also
>>> suggestions for the speakers etc. we are right now busily looking
>>> to get speakers from different places, themes and nationalities to
>>> make the meetings as engaged as possible.
>>>
>>> The proposed NIGD event on the Future of the Forum and whatever
>>> impact it is having is of utmost importance, we must have that
>>> questioning and enquiry. We did try doing that here for the Indian
>>> WSF process and hopefully we will have our report ready by next
>>> week. The theme note and a summary note is accessible from here http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=CACIMEvents
>>> (Aug 29-30 Symposium).
>>>
>>> In relation to how we could link up our meetings we thought it
>>> will be good we could schedule the NIGD’s FoF and CACIM’s facing
>>> the Future (FtF) meeting on the same day one after another that
>>> way we could avoid clash as well as have a full discussion on
>>> similar related themes. The notes for our meeting have already
>>> been circulated and we would welcome suggestions for names of the
>>> speakers whom we could approach. If you do have some notes for the
>>> FoF seminar then do share it with us.
>>>
>>> As of now our events are listed under the theme, WSF and the
>>> Global Justice and Solidarity Movements. They have an option
>>> others, so I created this another category because these don't fit
>>> in to the rest. But, now that I looked at the thematic axes again
>>> may be they could be accommodated in ‘Building real democratic
>>> political and economic structures and institutions (local,
>>> national and global ones) with full people's participation on
>>> decisions and control of public affairs and resources’. The Key-
>>> word we have selected is 'Social Forums (local, regional,
>>> thematic, continental and world).
>>>
>>> However, we still need to finalise it which we hope to do it in
>>> next few days, before the deadline. Do you have suggestions for
>>> this?
>>> Let me know what you feel about this proposition.
>>> Regards
>>> Madhuresh
>>>
>>> Thomas Ponniah wrote:
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: Madhuresh <madhuresh at cacim.net>
>>> To: Thomas Ponniah <thomas.ponniah at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: Teivo Teivainen <teivainen at yahoo.com>; jai.sen at cacim.net
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 7:29:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WSF-Discuss] Invitation to help CACIM plan events at
>>> Belem
>>>
>>> Dear Jai and all,
>>>
>>> Thanks for these superb proposals.
>>>
>>> I will be in Belem and would be willing to take part in your events.
>>> As Teivo mentions
>>> in his email, some of us in NIGD are organizing an event on the
>>> Future
>>> of the Forum
>>> and it would be great if we could have some dialogue between these
>>> events. The
>>> Forum need a discussion on its achievements, weaknesses and future
>>> projects.
>>>
>>> looking forward to seeing you all
>>>
>>> take care,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Teivo Teivainen <teivainen at yahoo.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> dear jai and all,
>>>
>>> thanks again for all the wonderful work and apologis for late
>>> reply (been on
>>> the road a bit too much, now in singapore, soon in melbourne and
>>> manila...
>>> and yes, hope to make it to bharat asap... ah, any suggestions on
>>> interesting people or movements to meet either in singapore, kuala
>>> lumpur,
>>> melbourne or manila would be great).
>>>
>>> so, to your questions
>>>
>>> - yes, i will be in belem and willing to take part in your events.
>>> and this
>>> particular seminar looks fascinating.
>>>
>>> - for speakers, it is important that it will not be simply the wsf
>>> elite
>>> (including ourselves), though in cacim events on the process there
>>> have
>>> often been a wider variety of speakers than in events organized by
>>> some
>>> others... for example, perhaps obviously, it would be good to
>>> include
>>> indigenous movements, feminists, libertarian socialists and
>>> climate justice
>>> activists, but the list should be much longer...
>>>
>>> - i can talk with people in nigd (www.nigd.org) to see how we
>>> could do
>>> things together. one of the related things nigd is planning is
>>> something on
>>> the impact of the forum. i think it is a good moment to have a
>>> serious
>>> debate on what the concrete (general and particular) mechanisms
>>> through
>>> which the wsf process has had (and could have) an impact on
>>> struggles and
>>> transormations.
>>>
>>> - question; under what "objective" (thematic axis) cacim events
>>> have been
>>> proposed for the belem program? i ask this also because i am sort of
>>> facilitating one of the objectives, the one on democracy (though
>>> there has
>>> been a problem with the web site so the facilitation has been a
>>> bit slow
>>> thus far)....
>>>
>>> in case you know anyone in melbourne, there will be this event on
>>> the wsf
>>> and global political agency on thursday:
>>>
>>> http://www.rmit.edu.au/browse;ID=chcxz8pqfyknz
>>>
>>>
>>> hugs,
>>>
>>>
>>> teivo
>>>
>>> --
>>> Teivo Teivainen
>>> Head of Department, Professor of World Politics
>>> Department of Political Science
>>> Unioninkatu 37
>>> POB 54, 00014 University of Helsinki
>>> Finland
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>>> *cell: FI +358 503505120 Call
>>> * e-mail: teivo.teivainen at helsinki.fi
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Jai Sen <jai.sen at cacim.net>
>>> To: Post WSFDiscuss <WorldSocialForum-Discuss at openspaceforum.net>
>>> Cc: Jai Sen <jai.sen at cacim.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 12:55:50 PM
>>> Subject: [WSF-Discuss] Invitation to help CACIM plan events at the
>>> Belem
>>> Forum, (3) : Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the
>>> Global Justice
>>> Movement, and Beyond
>>>
>>> Invitation to help CACIM plan events at the Belem Forum, (3) :
>>> Facing the
>>> Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice Movement, and
>>> Beyond
>>>
>>> Wednesday, November 19, 2008
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear friends on WSFDiscuss, greetings – once again !
>>>
>>> Further to our similar postings yesterday and the day
>>> before, we
>>> from CACIM are planning to also organise – again, hopefully
>>> together with
>>> others – the following event at the Belem Forum :
>>>
>>>
>>> Facing the Future :
>>>
>>> The World Social Forum, the Global Justice Movement, and Beyond.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once again, this posting is both to give you advance notice of
>>> this event –
>>> and to invite you to join us there then ! – but also to invite you
>>> to help
>>> us plan for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Specifically, and just as yesterday and the day before, we are both
>>> attaching and pasting on below a brief write-up that we have
>>> prepared for
>>> the event, and we would be very happy if you would :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Please let us know whether you are coming to
>>> Belem, and if
>>> so, whether you would like to take part in this event. (Apologies
>>> to those
>>> with whom we have already been in preliminary touch about our
>>> events at
>>> Belem and from whom we have already heard in this regard. But now
>>> that we
>>> have finalised our four events, please do write in again and let
>>> us know !
>>> Thanks.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Comment on the draft outline for the event.
>>> Please either
>>> respond here, on this list, or send us your comments in TRACKED
>>> CHANGES on
>>> the attached version. Thanks !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. Make suggestions for key speakers for the event,
>>> with the
>>> following details :
>>>
>>>
>>> Name :
>>> Name of organisation or institution or movement, if any :
>>> Full contact details (email id, country and preferably city /
>>> town / village
>>> location, and phone contacts) :
>>> Languages spoken :
>>> and also :
>>> A 50-100 word blurb on each person so that we know a little WHY
>>> you think
>>> the person is relevant to the event.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Suggest appropriate organisations who might like to
>>> co-organise the events with us (again, FULL DETAILS, please, as
>>> above, with
>>> reasons as to why these organisations).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. Suggest possible sources of funds for this event –
>>> and in
>>> general, the set of four events we are proposing to organise at
>>> Belem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally : PLEASE DO REPLY ALL, so that my colleagues also remain
>>> in the
>>> loop. Thanks !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> One more point : Just so that there is no confusion, please do
>>> note that we
>>> are proposing to organise four events in Belem, in all; as
>>> follows. We have
>>> already posted similar letter for the first two (as noted below)
>>> and are
>>> going to be also posting similar letters for the fourth one
>>> tomorrow, with
>>> each one inviting you to help us with them :
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> v The Politics, Potentials, and Meanings of the Belem Forum :
>>> The
>>> Significance of the Forum for the Indigenous Peoples of the World
>>> (as per
>>> the message posted yesterday (posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2008)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> v Critically engaging with the principles underlying the World
>>> Social
>>> Forum (Wednesday, November 19, 2008)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> v Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice
>>> Movement, and Beyond (this message)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> v A Global Labour Charter for Humanity : If Not Now, When ?
>>> (coming
>>> tomorrow).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We look forward very much to hearing back from you ! And also to
>>> the chance
>>> of meeting you there in Belem, and to your taking part in one or
>>> more of
>>> these events.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> With warm greetings
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> for CACIM
>>>
>>> Jai Sen
>>>
>>> att
>>> Facing the Future - The WSF, GJM, Beyond - Disc Note d1 js1411,
>>> 201108 for
>>> comments TC.doc
>>> _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
>>> DISCUSSION DRAFT – COMMENTS INVITED !
>>> Facing the Future : The World Social Forum, the Global Justice
>>> Movement, and
>>> Beyond
>>>
>>> A Discussion Note towards a Workshop at the WSF at Belem, Brazil,
>>> in January
>>> 2009
>>>
>>> CACIM, November 14 2008 – prepared by Jai Sen for CACIM, first draft
>>>
>>>
>>> Among those who participate in it, and among some observers and
>>> commentators, the World Social Forum is celebrated as an extremely
>>> significant contribution to what some refer to as the 'global
>>> social justice
>>> movement' and, indeed, to world politics. In turn, what is
>>> referred to as
>>> the 'global social justice movement' – and that is portrayed by
>>> some to be
>>> globalisation from below – is also seen as an important
>>> contribution to the
>>> struggle against neoliberalism and to the achievement of global
>>> justice.
>>>
>>> Others however argue that both the WSF and the GJM are already
>>> dying; and/or
>>> that they lack the anger, the vision, and the organisation to be
>>> able to
>>> achieve what they say they are about. Perhaps of equal relevance
>>> is the
>>> reality that what is called the 'global social justice movement'
>>> is not the
>>> only show in town; for there are other movements – other social and
>>> political currents, and stirrings – beyond the WSF and the GJM
>>> that are
>>> also, in their own ways and visions, but separately, struggling
>>> for global
>>> justice, such as the global Islamic movement or the struggles of
>>> indigenous
>>> peoples in different parts of the world.
>>>
>>> And beyond this, the global justice movement – and also the other
>>> movements
>>> taking place – must also seen within a longer and larger history of
>>> transformative struggle that has been taking place over the past
>>> half
>>> century, and specifically since the mid 1960s, since when huge
>>> changes have
>>> taken place in the world of movement.
>>>
>>> All of this is confronted by the major new emerging realities in
>>> the world –
>>> the current collapse of the global financial system, which itself is
>>> bringing into question even for its proponents the entire neoliberal
>>> project, and beyond that the global climate and ecological crisis,
>>> which –
>>> and triggered by the same causes - threatens to be a collapse far
>>> larger
>>> than the financial system.
>>>
>>> The WSF, and the GJM, must face the winds of this history, this
>>> present, and
>>> this future; these futures.
>>>
>>> Some, even much, of this ground is the content of a new book being
>>> currently
>>> edited by Peter Waterman and Jai Sen, due out in early 2009. This
>>> book,
>>> which will be the second volume in the Challenging Empires series,
>>> continues
>>> in the tradition of the first volume, World Social Forum :
>>> Challenging
>>> Empires :[1] As a critical anthology of essays on the theory and
>>> practice of
>>> the World Social Forum and now also the global justice movement,
>>> including
>>> discussing them at this juncture in history and looking ahead to the
>>> future. This time however, the collection decisively moves ahead
>>> and
>>> locates the WSF and the 'GJM' with respect to much wider currents of
>>> movement in the world today – of other worlds in the making.
>>>
>>> We, hopefully with others, therefore propose to take the
>>> opportunity of the
>>> WSF at Belem, in January 2009, to organise a major Seminar in this
>>> area,
>>> including by inviting to the session all the contributors to the
>>> original
>>> book and the forthcoming book.
>>>
>>>
>>> In part, the discussions that take place in Belem will also follow
>>> the
>>> discussions that have taken place at related meetings organised by
>>> CACIM in
>>> the recent past :
>>>
>>> A major Symposium organised in New Delhi, India, on August 29 &
>>> 30, 2008 on
>>> the theme Struggles for Social Justice in India Today : How
>>> Relevant is the
>>> World Social Forum ? (for the Theme Note, Symposium Programme,
>>> List of
>>> Participants, and a Summary Note on what happened, see
>>> http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=CACIMEvents); and –
>>> A Seminar / Roundtable discussion at the European Social Forum on
>>> How
>>> Relevant is the WSF to Struggles for Social Justice in the World
>>> Today ?,
>>> co-organised with Fronesis, a Swedish journal (http://fronesis.nu/english/
>>> )
>>> on September 19 2008 (for a report, see
>>> http://cacim.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=Malmo).
>>>
>>>
>>> We are also inviting to the Belem session all those who were
>>> speakers or
>>> resource people at these two events.
>>>
>>>
>>> Comments welcome !
>>>
>>>
>>> _____________
>>> CACIM
>>> www.cacim.net, info at cacim.net
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>>>
>>> ________________________________
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>>> and @
>>> http://www.openspaceforum.net/twiki/tiki-index.php?page=WSFChallengingEmpires2004
>>> .
>>> A second edition of this book has now come out in 2008, published
>>> by Black
>>> Rose Books (http://www.blackrosebooks.net/wsf.htm).
>>>
>>> ______________________________
>>>
>>> Jai Sen
>>> jai.sen at cacim.net
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