[WSF-Discuss] Fwd: heads of state in the wsf?

Tue Aug 5 11:15:48 UCT 2008

Tuesday, August 5, 2008

Dear friends – who also happen to be members of the IC of the WSF  
– greetings !

             A rich discussion has broken out on WSFDiscuss on the  
issue of the participation of Heads of States at the WSF 2009 in  
Belem – a subject that as you know, is due to come up at the IC  
meeting in Copenhagen.

             As the administrator of this list, we at CACIM feel that  
you may well be interested in knowing of and seeing this exchange –  
and, we hope, also to come in on it.  As the first and till-date last  
intervener has said, Peter Waterman, he would prefer to respond to  
the debate when someone from the IC also comes in on the exchange.   
 From our side, and speaking on behalf of all those on this list, we  
at CACIM would certainly like to have your views.

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              With warm greetings, and hoping that you will respond  
to this invitation –

             Jai (Sen)

Antonio Martins, Secretaria do Fórum Social Mundial - World Social  
Forum Office, Brazil
Cândido Grzybowski, Director, IBASE – Brazilian Institute of Social  
and Economic Analyses, Brazil
Chico Whitaker Ferreira, CBJP - Brazilian Commission of Justice and  
Peace, Brazil
Christophe Aguiton, France
Eric Toussaint, CADTM, Belgium
François Houtart, CETRI – Centre Tricontinentale, Belgium, and  
WFA – World Forum on Alternatives
Gina Vargas, Articulación Feminista Marco Sur, Peru
Gustavo Codas, CUT – Central Única dos Trabalhadores, Brazil
Moema Miranda, IBASE, Brazil
Nicola Bullard, Focus on the Global South, Thailand
Njoki Njoroge Njehu, Daughters of Mumbi Global Resource Center /  
Solidarity Africa Network, Kenya
Raffaella Bolini, ARCI, Italy
Roberto Savio, IPS, Italy
Samir Amin, FTM (Third World Forum), Senegal and France, and WFA –  
World Forum on Alternatives
Vinod Raina, Jubilee South, India
Vittorio Agnoletto, Italy

Copy : WSFDiscuss, Teivo Teivainen, and Peter Waterman

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Debate on WSFDiscuss on the participation of Head of States at the  
WSF 2009 s js050808.doc

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "peter waterman" <p.waterman at inter.nl.net>
> Date:  August 5 2008 3:51:45 PM GMT+05:30
> To: "Reitan, Ruth" <rreitan at mail.as.miami.edu>, "Francine Mestrum"  
> <mestrum at skynet.be>, "CACIM" <cacim at cacim.net>, "Post WSFDiscuss"  
> <WorldSocialForum-Discuss at openspaceforum.net>
> Cc: "Reitan, Ruth Carol" <r.reitan at miami.edu>, Teivo Teivainen  
> <teivo at nigd.org>, ginavargas at telefonica.net.pe, nigd-list at nigd.org
> Subject: Re: [WSF-Discuss] heads of state in the wsf?
>
> I have already received 4-5 reactions to my 'heads of state @ WSF'  
> piece.
> Thanx to all who have contributed. I am awaiting further reactions -
> particularly from people within the IC of the WSF - before responding.
>
> Peter W.
>
>     'This is an innovation, a suggestion that seems utopian and that I
> myself admit to be utopian. When I say that the radio or the  
> theatre 'could'
> do so-and-so I am aware that these vast institutions cannot do all  
> they
> 'could', and not even all they want.
> ...'But it is not at all our job to renovate ideological  
> institutions on the
> basis of the existing social order by means of innovations. Instead  
> our
> innovations must force them to surrender that basis. So: For  
> innovations,
> against renovation!'
>
> Bert Brecht on Radio, 1932.
>
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